You obviously noticed that user Lilpup5555 making worthless edits and trying to take charge. My whole October has sadly turned into following this user round the internet because he keeps copying content from our wiki (Rainbow Magic Wiki) and pasting them onto other unrelated wikis and he's done this quite a few times now. If the user does anything else, please consider adding to my forum . Thank you.
Yes, I've noticed. Already reported them to wikia for giving legal advice (and in such a way that makes it sound like it's official plus making a news post about it). And I've also removed the pages they created acting like an admin.
Thanks for taking the time to inform me of this user, if nothing else I've been wondering where the messages were being copied from. I hope your troll gets dealt with.
I am really sorry to tell that the COPPA has been updated, which means that once you get protection for this wiki, no Fandom Users will have the ability to contribute to this wiki. You can visit Wikia Labs via your admin dashboard to turn on the feature "Require all contributors to log in".
No offense, but your not wikia staff as far as I can tell and should not be be messaging other users in a legal advisory capacity, especially without a link to an official news post by wikia. Plus, an official report from wikia would not ask, they would simply make an announcement that all wikis will do this for legal reasons and just require logins after removing that option. They likely know of the issue (if there is one) and are either handling it or planning to make an announcement. It would be safest to wait. The wiki won't be taken down, as wikia would either lock all wiki immediately or figure out a way not to need to.
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Uh oh... Look at the mess I made in the tips page... I didn't know how the sub-headings function and I've placed too many and to make things worse I've bolded them and it turned out looking terrible... \( '>ء<)/
I have no idea why I can't edit them back. Please fix my mess. I have a lot more info that I need to place in there besides the annoying grammatical errors but I will keep that for tomorrow I guess; I don't want to make it worse...
I changed the two "Best Ways to Spend GP Medals" headers to 1 header with that name and two sub headers (structures / raffles), converted your lists to bullet lists (little more compact and read a bit nicer), converted your one list to a table (both making it more compact and removing the headers), and removed the "structures" boosting subheader (just made it bolded text).
Not sure exactly what you wanted changed, but most of the sub headers are gone now, so hopefully that helps :)
Whoa! Looking fantastic! Thank you so much! Sorry for being a noob at this stuff... x'D
After you tidying up what I tidied up, the upper page completely transformed than how it was yesterday. I will continue working hard on uh... Transforming this wiki and I think I might ask for your help more often if that's OK. :3
Look at my last edit in the Tips page. Spent almost an hour editing, but after saving it, nothing changed! Viewing the edit history only shows "+1" extra byte. This is painful... The ghosts of this wiki are starting to get annoying... :(
Anyways, that's enough editing for today. Please review my last edits on the Tips page and do what you must. Over +3500 bytes wooho! Wanted to edit the last two sub-headers today to consider my work done but no... Something had to happen... Again. ( '>->)
I do have some issues regarding how some pages here are written. The Tips page have a lot of info that should be mentioned in other pages instead, in fact, I think the whole page should be divided into the others. For instances:
The "Farming Resources" and "Best Ways to Spend GP Medals" headers should be moved over to the Resources page.
"Best Racing Team" and "Aura is Always Your Friend" should be moved over to the Staff page.
Somehow, PichuYang believe that auras belong to resources and typed the exact same information on the resources page... And some stuff are here and there, it's a mess. :/
That and those arrows and symbols that absolutely mean nothing in the vehicle and tire tables. They should be replaced with comprehensive numbers. OK that's it I'm done with my whining. xD
I won't be able to make any more edits for a few days due to life issues. I'm getting addicted so it's for the best.
Do you use the VisualEditor (default editor unless you've changed it in settings)? It's still a bit janky in my opinion. If you were editing for over an hour, it could be the "save" token became invalid or something, but I'd think they give some kinda warning or something and not make you lose all your stuff.
And agreed, most tip page stuff does belong elsewhere. Main purpose of the tip page is 3 fold; give an easy place for people to dumb small tips that don't fit anywhere, allow people to write opinion pieces, and to allow people to dump helpful information without having to worry about fitting it into an existing page. So with the last one in mind, content can definitely be moved, so long as it's rewritten (if needed) to fit into the page it's moved into.
"Best Racing Team" probably fits best on the tips page, since it's fairly opinionated. Not to say it isn't good content, but as it's written it's just not very neutral.
I've made heavy edits in the Staff page in the last 3 days. Too much false info and misconceptions got fixed up, and look at all that beautiful data in the tables! ( ^o^)/
Regarding the special ability table, should I leave it as it is and explain which skills are exclusive to which staff type in bullets above it? Or should I add another "staff" column in which I write down the staff type? Or should I make 3 different tables: one for drivers, one for mechanics and one for non-exclusive skills?
I've also edited out the compatibility arrows in the tire table in the Parts page and replaced them with numbers as arrows didn't differentiate between different compatibilities. I would like to do the same thing in the vehicle tables for the same reason, although I don't own all the cars so a lot of info will be missing. Is it OK for me to edit those that I own and leave the rest as they are until someone who owns them fix the rest up
I would also like to edit the staff recommendations in the Tips page in a "less biased" way, but not sure how to do that without deleting info like stat distribution or tips on how to exploit certain skills to get the most out of. Regarding that, I might just make a special skill tip section or something like that? After that, I will definitely add way more recommendations as there are good drivers and mechanics out there that I didn't talk about in detail so the reader might pick what they actually need/want from a long list rather than me telling them: "pick x and y drivers; they're the best."
Sorry for bothering you too much... I really want someone to consult before making major edits. You can review the pages and do what you must if something needs to be changed if possible.
How do the wiki's chat function? Does the receiver have to be online or can they receive messages offline to read later? If so, do you generally accept chat messages or only messages on your wall? Something is bothering me and I can't discuss it in a wall that can be viewed by the public... (III-_-)
Depends; if they never mix, probably different tables; if a little overlap then #2.
That's fine, that was just a left over from GPS1. If theres actual numbers use those. I make the negative numbers red to make it easier to tell which ones are buffs at first glance (sadly no CSS shows up on mobile, but oh well). I also replace yes/no with images (easier to tell at a glance than text).
Depending, you could move stat distribution into sub lists
Stats: like this. Might not work; hard to tell sometimes what looks nice until you try it.
That's fine! I don't mind giving my opinion, though don't feel obligated either (unless you plan on deleting a bunch of stuff or something =p)
If by chat you mean Special:Chat it's real time, and no messages are saved. They have to be online and in the chat room. Generally on smaller wikis people say they need to talk (on a person's message wall), and then hang out in the chat until the other person (hopefully) joins. not ideal, but meh. Alternatively, I have a discord account I never use (for things kinda like this), but will try to keep a browser tab open next few days. name: [removed] (or, if you wanna message me without sending a friend request, I'm on the "/r/Kairosoft Discord Server" linked on the front page, can find my name on the list if I'm online and message me).
Regarding the staff page, I've removed the bullets and added a new column in the special ability table on the Staff page differentiating exclusive skills, I also turned it into a sortable table for that purpose. Created a new Table showing RP costs per special skill level above it which were missing info.
Regarding the Vehicle page, I've added missing info on how drive stat bonuses work under their table, and I've also replaced vehicle compatibility symbols with exact values, although I left some as I never owned them in one of my accounts. I have no idea how to turn text red without source code so I leave that to you... Tons of red numbers there though... ( ;>~<)
I've rewritten the whole staff recommendation header in the Tips page into more compact and less biased format. I took your advice and I think it looks good, but I'm not going to add more staff until I receive your confirmation on its current look or whether I need to change it further.
I'm getting spoiled wasting too much of your time; the issue I'm having is a minor one although I think it's gone so no need for a chat since it seems to be a pain. xD
Read the last 2 comment chains in the tips page and you might get a hint of what was happening, similarities are a little too obvious, and the user is using a VPN. Comments like these were very common, especially the multiple arguments that person took place in. So yeah... Silly me just wanted to complain nothing too complicated or serious... ( ;^~^)
I'll miss those sexy symbols from GPS1 =p I'll turn the text red after this. I believe you can copy-paste the red text from elsewhere on the page, and then change the number (at least, that trick worked in the old visual editor).
I think it looks nice, and from a quick glance unbiased enough for the Tips page.
Some days I get really tempted to toggle on that "no anon" switch to force people to use accounts =p (not seriously, but would be so nice to keep track of people).
As far as that first comment chain with the anon, I think it's better now than it was before (can't speak for when the comment was initially made).
As far as being a "blog post" or being to much info (as the top two comments chains mention) they're concern is/was valid (which you addressed by compressing it a bit), that's somewhat the point of the tips page (as I saw it anyways, not as most of the games use the page), which is why it's labeled "Tips / Walkthrough"; it's essentially a community blog post. That said, if it does get to crowded might have to figure out ways to address it; don't want 50 pages of content on 1 page. Personally I'm not opposed to people making a guide on blog post (be it on the wiki blog or off wiki) and then linking to it on the tips page. I've occasionally linked to a reddit post someone made on a tips page (and if a small post copied the contents as well). Or if content gets detailed enough and can be made to have a NPOV (and as unbiased as it can be), it could be moved to either existing pages or if warranted a new page.
I figure adding tips into an article is good if it's detailed enough and adds something otherwise not addressed. I'm "guilty" of adding opinions/suggestions to articles such as: Spots (Pocket Academy)#Spot_Combos or to an extent Auras (Grand Prix Story). Sometimes it's hard to talk about content without picking specific examples or common practices. For example, the "Raffles" section in the Tips page seems quite factual; it's not strictly require info (thus more "tip-y") but expands on content in a neutral way (in my opinion). Haven't played the game, but I could see having a "Raffles" page, that explains what they are / how they work, and then the current Tips page Raffles content after that. I could be wrong, but I don't think Raffles are currently talked about anywhere.
Well anyways, sorry for wall of text towards the end! Could probably ramble on so I'll stop here.
I'll probably keep discord open next few days encase you do wanna chat about something. And no worries about wasting my time, so long as I don't need to repeat myself a lot I don't mind (to much, mood permitting).
The Staff tables are almost entirely complete. Give me one more week and every staff in the game will be there. ( ~w^)Come to think of it, I've literally typed out 100% of the data in the tables there since I deleted all of the old content, all alone. That's kinda cool.
Regarding the parts page, I've added a "Rarity" column in all of the tables which I thought was necessary missing info. I've also tried to make them sortable for that particular addition but I wasn't able to do that... I'm such a noob at doing this stuff! Oh and I REALLY want to pre-sort them in a way to appear sorted as the page loads. Is there a way to do that or is the only way to do so is by retyping the entire table row by row?
And then there's another complicated issue. Some parts in the parts page have special effects that are not included anywhere in there. Although as it is... The tables are already very messy with all those 1st and 2nd effect columns to add a 3rd, I can't even imagine how it will look. I believe there's way too much unnecessary info for every part than what someone might actually need. As in, each part in the game can have 6 rows from +0 to +5, and then there are 4 columns for each single bonus that part may have with stats at level 1, 99, 120 and 150. That's way too crowded, don't you think? Too crowded that each part in the game can have its very own table and still be considered moderately long.
I was thinking if we can only include the lowest and highest grades only, with their lowest and highest levels for each part in the game for all the data that we might actually need for the sake of comparison and the rest of the grades between them become just easy guesswork. I understand that deleting some data might be wrong, but as it is, there's way too much missing info that the tables almost look blank while being too crowded at the same time.
But come to think of it, a table for each part in the game won't be such a bad idea after all for multiple reasons: it won't have as many columns as the majority of parts don't have a 2nd effect let alone a 3rd, there won't be a needed "rarity" column or a "store?" column because that can be noted below with notes of how to unlock them at the shop as well, parts with special effects can be talked upon in more detail, and there won't be any data loss while making them more compact at the same time. The parts table was initially copy-pasted from the Japanese wiki and then added upon and with so much data in there as of now, the table has started to look terrible... Just adding my 2 cents though and I wanna know what you think. :3
Regarding the Raffle sub-header, I thought it would make a great addition especially as I've talked about the topic in detail when someone in the comments section argued with PichuYang that the Treasure Raffles are better than Premium ones. Not to mention it had very little details in one single paragraph before I made its own header. I was just expanding and never got the idea of making a new page dedicated to the topic, but yeah I think that might work. I can add the probabilities, the price table and the paragraph underneath the sub-header. The "Facts to consider" part is paired with tips though and the only "fact" in there is the last point so all others should be filtered out and be left in the tips page I guess? Also, it will be cool to add an entirely new table in the new Raffle page with all possible "common", "rare" and "super rare" drops. That will take me and some others (hopefully) some work though.
By the way, is it possible to follow comments somehow? Sometimes people ask questions and stuff in the comment sections but I get to reply a few days later... Some of them probably never knew they got a reply. ( >-<)
I've sent a friend request on Discord, Princess of Arabia, #1980. I don't use any other form of social media (or any real-life social capabilities either lol...) This wall has gotten really long. xD
Table with multiple layers of headers can't be sorted; but you can "cheat" by make multiple headers for every column (did it just now). And there is no way to pre sort other than order of the rows. If you tell me how you'd like them sorted I can move the rows around in source mode.
Yah these tables probably need a rework. But since I haven't played GPS2 I'm not sure what is or isn't helpful / what else should be included. Like I don't understand why stats aren't just listed for level 1 and the actual max level. The point of listing max.min is so you know what ones are good to start out at, and what ones to focus on long term.
I'm not against a table for each part, but it also makes information less minimalistic. It's been done before a few times (ex: Crops (Pocket Harvest)), but should be avoided unless there's really no other good way (I'm not sure if that's the case here). While that example I linked before looks nice and has a lot of information, it's also hard to compare information or just get a good general sense of what's happening (it's worth it in that case, just both ways have pros / cons). I'd probably have more of an opinion if I saw how you'd wanna set it up.
Sounds good! True, having a raffle drop table would be helpful and probably warrants a page just for that.
If they have an account then yes, you get notified automatically (I think you even get emailed by default, though I always turn email settings off for all sites so I'm not sure). If it's an anon, I think if they visit the wiki using same IP then they get the notification symbol (though not 100% sure). Otherwise, they'd just have to manually check. But your reply can always help other people checking the comments!
I also don't use social media (other than reddit / twitter, but I don't use them for the "social" aspect but instead to get info).
The comments system uses sub pages in a special "comment" namespace, yes. That way there's access to user history / wiki syntax / other normal wiki features. And the impact is minimal. Space isn't a concern, and if a page has a lot of comments it only loads the first I think 25 (with the rest only loaded if you choose to). And comments are only loaded once you scroll to the bottom of the page anyways.
Message wall / forum system use a similar idea with subpages, although both are a little more complex since they have message titles and can be closed/removed.
Hi, I figured out that GPS 2 could use a new page called "Resources", to discuss about the resources that players asked frequently : Medals, Fuel, Nitro, Research Points, Coins, Banana. Could you help me on adding "Resources" page? Or do discussions needed? Thanks for conern.
I'll add the page link. For the most part any new pages are allowed so long as they don't talk about something that is summed up in a couple sentences / a picture. This seems like a good page as it talks about various things, of which cause confusion. In the future, you can add new pages by clicking the little edit icon on the game nav (next to the "hide" link), and then editing that page.
Hi, is there any rulesand regulations, aside from the Style Manual when editing? (Of course no vandalism or trolling) I made some few edits, mainly updating game info. You can take a look if you are free.
Also, if I want to create a table to follow the similar style as an existing table in Kairosoft Wiki, is it allowed to copy paste within Kairosoft Wiki, or request admin? Thanks.
Sadly I'm bad about writing down the rules; figure they're mostly common sense - other than style manual ones - and find writing them annoying (though doing so has been on my todo list for forever).
copy paste from one page to another? sure. No clue why wikia defaults to the other one, rarely see wikis use it (at least when they have editors that edit in source mode). Assuming you use the VisualEditor (default editor), copy-pasting is the best way to get the style. For something more complicated (having columns extend multiple cells or force a column to sorry values as numbers, etc), you can contact an admin if your not comfortable using source mode.
Hey there, I accidentally uploaded two images with the wrong file name. Since I couldn't rename the files, I reuploaded them with the proper name. Could you delete the first two? They're [[File:Louis Mason.png]] and [[File:Tim Reeves.png]].
...and risk the temptation of DELETING THE WHOLE INTERNET????
sure, why not? ;)
no, seriously - I'm not looking for a new adminship, but I'll certainly take anything to make editing easier; I'm hardly active on the marvel side anymore because it became too time-consuming; or to put it with a perverted spidey-quote: "I'll take the powers, but I'm not looking for responsibility."
Hey there, thanks for the help with the tables again. Sorry if I bother you once more, I'm not very design-savy, I'm more of a research grunt and I don't know who else to ask. ;)
So I've been adding stats icons to the various tables which saves a lot of space - and even looks decent on most pages (Items (Home Run High), for example. On others, it looks horrible, especially Activities (Home Run High). Do you have any more of your mighty HTML-wizardry to improve on that?
It's a bit of a pain, but if you want stuff on multiple lines in a table, sadly putting them on separate lines isn't the "best" way. Behind the scenes, whenever you put something on a separate line (in the editor) it will render them in a "paragraph" tag which adds extra padding above / below. This is true for both images and text.
Best way around this is to use the <br> tag and put them all on one line. ex:
[[File:Study (Home Run High).png|20x20px]] + 9
[[File:Sports (Home Run High).png|20x20px]] + 21
[[File:Fun (Home Run High).png|20x20px]] + 9
[[File:Study (Home Run High).png|20x20px]] + 9<br>[[File:Sports (Home Run High).png|20x20px]] + 21<br>[[File:Fun (Home Run High).png|20x20px]] + 9
+ 9 + 21 + 9
You could also just put them side by side and avoid the multiple lines issue, though it works either way. Although I would put them side-by-side (separated by a space) if there's no numbers next to them.
Edit: Nice job with the images by the way; they often makes things easier to read as well as more condensed. Plus make the page look better overall.
Lovely. Ah the good old days of putting a <br> tag after every line, I remember those from other wikis. Wasn't the idea of the visual editor that it would eliminate that sort of thing. ;)
Thanks for the compliment on the images. It was more an issue of not having enough space in the tables, but as you say, it just looks better. Plus: It makes the tables understandable even for non-English speakers (I noticed there's quite a few spanish and portuguese-speakers on this wiki...). BTW: Did I do the upload as suppposed to (That was always a big issue on other wikis), i.e. give the right file name and so on?
Visual editor isn't meant to make thing better, just simpler ;) It's mostly intended to get new editors willing to edit, instead of being scared away by wiki syntax. I just wish the VisualEditor worked like the previous one, where you could add html into the visual editor part and it would add it; the new one prevents you from doing so, forcing you to use source mode.
Oh, I actually forgot to check that for once; We actually have a rule that image names should include the name of their game in them. Categories help, but without a game name in the file name, it makes them hard to manage, and makes source mode name suggestions a lot more worthless. Edit: That said, I don't push the rule as much as I should in recent times. Renaming images gets kinda old =p
In that case: Thanks for being lenient - and doing the renaming for me (as I noticed). ;)
Thanks again for the help - good to see there's an active admin around. Then again, I guess this wiki isn't as work-intensive as others? I spent most of my time on marvel blocking vandals and negotiating petty squabbles between teenagers who were convinced that their favorite hero was stronger than the next guy's favorite hero which led to endless edit wars. Seems much more quiet here... ;)
"Active". I don't play Kairosoft games much anymore and thus don't add much content, but still try to monitor the wiki (although occasionally stuff slips by). I mostly just try monitor Reddit so I can get new games added for others to add content to. I'm sure this is on my userpage somewhere, but I monitor multiple wikis using a script I made, so it's not as hard to get myself to monitor consistently.
And yah, compared to a lot of the big wikis the community isn't very bustling; not to say we don't have nice people, but they never all seem to be active at once. Three months 1 person will be active, then kinda stop. Couple months later someone else will be super active. etc; people come and go. I probably don't help the problem much either; I'm an introvert and don't do much to push / promote community discussion. Although based on the Reddit, Kairosoft gamers might just not be the most talkative bunch; lots of lurkers. Might be due to the lack of story / in-depth characters to discuss combined with them having small games. But I guess the flipside to that is we don't have many trolls or hot heads.
If I have the choice, I prefer the troll-free environment. ;) Trolls suck up so much energy and in the end, you spend less and less time doing what the original reason was for getting involved with the wiki: enjoying games/comics/series.
I guess the Kairo games are pretty much perfect for editing on the side - most of them allow some free time in between "action phases". But I can also see how they attract a special crowd - mostly kids and/or retro gamers. Not the hardcore gaming power nerds you would find in more mainstream games.
For me, they're pretty much perfect. I do things on the side while playing them: reading, editing here, watching TV, even studying for exams. ;) I've been hooked ever since I discovered PL Story...
Sorry, it's been awhile since I played it, and I don't recall any specifics. Playable characters shouldn't be to hard to figure out since they have unique portraits. And I believe using the leader to talk to them is usually a safe bet.